Jon Olsen (burnunit) wrote,
Jon Olsen
burnunit

The complete saga

Well, I finally despaired of squeezing any more humor out of Marv Ellis from US Data Corporation, the artist formerly known as [redacted sales guy] and called his boss. Boss gave me his email address and I just sent off the conversations. Maybe they'll make it right. We'll keep you posted.

Kelly,
Per our phone call, attached below are the email exchanges I had with Marv in late April. I hope you can see where my concerns are. If opportunities present themselves and if we are a good fit with my clients' needs, I can probably still hear your pitch.

Best,

Jon Olsen
jon@raygunbeliever.com


Here's the whole email chain (which most of you have already seen)


Marv Ellis<mellis@usdatacorporation.com>
to jon@raygunbeliever.com
date Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:15 PM
subject Us Data--Follow up

Jon are you serious about moving forward with a marketing list? Are you wasting our time or did you have a serious need that we can help with.

Marv Ellis

Regional Sales Manager
U.S. Data Corporation
Embassy Tower
9300 Underwood Avenue Suite 270
Omaha, NE 68114
Email: mellis@usdatacorporation.com


Toll-Free: (888) 578-DATA (3282)
Local: (402) 758-0290 ext. 219
Fax: (402) 502-5623


US Data Spring Promotion! – Give your spring marketing campaign a jumpstart with a US Data marketing list. Get 15% Off your first order with our company, and 10% Off every subsequent order during the month of April.
(Cannot be combined with any other offer, minimum orders are $1000, maximum promotional value is $1000).



Marv Ellis <mellis@usdatacorporation.com>
date Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:03 PM
subject Re: Us Data--Follow up
mailed-by gmail.com



Woah Marv, hold on a second with the "wasting our time" bit. I thought when I filled out the get-a-quote form that I identified some of the things I was looking for. I appreciate the clarity of purpose and firm resolve you demonstrate on your follow through, but maybe this is a little stronger worded than you need it to be for a potential customer.

That said, I operate a small B2B business for other small businesses. I am scoping on behalf of my own clients who are a liquor store chain and small regional distributor. And I want to know the following four items:
What kind of list segmentation can US Data perform your lists? My clients' interest is going to run toward consumers, segmented by age groups (21+ obviously), zip codes, and income.
What is your method: do your clients acquire lists or do you do the sending and we have the option to deliver creative?
What are the cost and unit sizes for your lists according to some of the selection criteria identified above?
What does your reporting look like?
That'll do it. Now is that serious enough or should I give my clients the quotes I have from your competitors plus my margin?

Regards,

Jon Olsen


Jon Olsen <jon@raygunbeliever.com>


date Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:13 PM
subject RE: Us Data--Follow up



Well apparently it worked………..you finally responded. Oh and go ahead give them the other quotes, safe to assume your quoting brokered data which we all know how well that works. As you know we are a compiler and we choose who we work with not the other way around. Again if you are serious about discussing a partnership then let me know a good time to get on the the phone to discuss.



We may not be a match, hard to say. Thank you for the response.



Marv Ellis
Regional Sales Manager
U.S. Data Corporation
Embassy Tower
9300 Underwood Avenue Suite 270
Omaha, NE 68114
Email: mellis@usdatacorporation.com


Toll-Free: (888) 578-DATA (3282)
Local: (402) 758-0290 ext. 219
Fax: (402) 502-5623


US Data Spring Promotion! – Give your spring marketing campaign a jumpstart with a US Data marketing list. Get 15% Off your first order with our company, and 10% Off every subsequent order during the month of April.
(Cannot be combined with any other offer, minimum orders are $1000, maximum promotional value is $1000).



Jon Olsen<jon@raygunbeliever.com>
to Marv Ellis <mellis@usdatacorporation.com>
date Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM
subject Re: Us Data--Follow up
mailed-by gmail.com


Marv!

It did work; you must say that to all the businesses! You are correct, I AM looking for brokered data and I agree, we likely will not be a perfect match.

Your PPC guys must be going crazy. They have to hate it that leads who click their carefully made ads can't tell that it's US Data who does the choosing, and not the other way around. Maybe they could reduce their spend, since the customer's shopping process is evidently immaterial. Once they learn the inside sales reps have eliminated the need for attracting customers, it should make budget negotiations much easier.

As requested, I'll keep your number. I can foresee a time when someone I work with insists I put on a nice suit, buy flowers, and beg you to take me back.

Best,
JonO

from Marv Ellis<mellis@usdatacorporation.com>
to Jon Olsen <jon@raygunbeliever.com>
date Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:21 AM
subject RE: Us Data--Follow up



We attract customers that are truly interested in purchasing quality data, not bargain basement shoppers like yourself. Save the suit, your probably much more comfortable working from moms basement in your pajamas.


Good day and I hope all works out for you.



Best,

Marv



Marv Ellis

Regional Sales Manager
U.S. Data Corporation
Embassy Tower
9300 Underwood Avenue Suite 270
Omaha, NE 68114
Email: mellis@usdatacorporation.com


Toll-Free: (888) 578-DATA (3282)
Local: (402) 758-0290 ext. 219
Fax: (402) 502-5623


US Data Spring Promotion! – Give your spring marketing campaign a jumpstart with a US Data marketing list. Get 15% Off your first order with our company, and 10% Off every subsequent order during the month of April.
(Cannot be combined with any other offer, minimum orders are $1000, maximum promotional value is $1000).



from Jon Olsen<jon@raygunbeliever.com>
to Marv Ellis <mellis@usdatacorporation.com>
date Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:30 AM
subject Re: Us Data--Follow up
mailed-by gmail.com



Dearest Marvin,

Oh, no no surely I have given you the wrong idea! Our office is on the ground floor, and when you are next in the Twin Cities, do come by for the tour. We shall have butternut squash and bacon canapes (my own recipe). And I make a lovely Aviation cocktail which I'm told inspires many to feats of the most grandiose entrepreneurship and unparalleled client service. I'll introduce you to the wife and kids and you can even examine our data center.

And my dear mother, bless her soul, is hundreds of miles away pining for her grandchildren. It was certainly a difficult time in our lives, living under her roof those many years ago. She loathed our noisy dog and stifled her anxieties for my pride's sake while we sought to get back on our feet. What a strong and vigorous woman. Do you know that she is already 71? Seventy-one! I will tell her you asked after her, she'll be so pleased.

The dog, of course, had to be put down.

Warm regards,

Jon
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